Dutch ship, 1700s, from Delft (Holland) plate. Worldwide Smoot etc.

The Dorothy [Smoot or Gilbert] Durham, William Smoot Question
And Also, The Veale Family Connection




One of the many perplexing problems that arise in the study of Smoot family genealogy is the of the relationship between Dorothy Durham (b ca 1663) and William Smoot. Genealogies that have been recently published have placed Dorothy as the daughter of William Smoot. Modern competent researchers have questioned that relationship, and some believe that Dorothy Durham may have been born a Gilbert, not a Smoot. This page will present both documentation and dialog about that subject which has appeared on our SMOOT-L mailing list.

This discussion starts with two messages regarding a Smoot and Veale family connection, then on the third message the Durham question is added. As is usual with e-mail messages, you will find that the subject matter will meander like a crooked creek. Future messages will probably make a few more changes in direction, and so, we apologize for that.



Contributor:
Rick Saunders
fzsaund@ix.netcom.com
Salt Lake City, UT
18 Mar 1999

[SMOOT-L] Smoot, William died 1707 Westmoreland Co. VA (Part 1)


Hi,

This e-mail will consist of two separate postings. This first part will add to what has appeared in print about William Smoot. The second part will be some conjecture in light of new information.

This will draw on three published works dealing with the Smoot family. All got parts regarding rights William Smoot and contained information the other two did not, but all had either errors or incomplete information. These three works are:

The Smoots of Maryland and Virginia, by Harry Wright Newman

The Price, Blackemore, Hamblen, Skipworth and Allied Lines, by Mayor Jay Berry Price (Knoxville, TN: Tenn. Valley Publishing, 1992)

Early Families of Southern Maryland, Vol 5, by Elise Greenup Jourdan

From clues provided by these works, plus research of the records mine, I hope to provide a clearer of the family of this William Smoot.

William Smoot wrote his will in Westmoreland Co., VA on 23 Apr. 1706, proved 30 Apr. 1707. He named his wife Eleanor, daughters Sarah, Winifred, and Mary. Sons William and Thomas at age 21.

Price was the first and only to note that William's wife was Eleanor Veale, daughter of Morris Veale and wife Dorothy. She was named as Eleanor Veale in her father's 1696 will. On 23 Feb. 1697/8 she received 80 pounds of tobacco for two days attendance at court to prove the will of Jeremia Jadwin. (Westmoreland Co., VA Order Bk. 1690-1698, p. 256a, abstracted by John Frederick Dorman) She had married by Dec. 1699 when John Tanner filed an information for perjury against Thomas Wilson and Ellenor Smoot. On 26 June 1700 the sheriff was ordered to bring Thomas Wilson and Ellenor Veale, now Elleanor Smoot to the next court to answer for perjury exhibited against them by John Tanner. (Westmoreland Co., VA Order Bk. 1698-1705, p. 85a, abstracted by Dorman) On 29 Aug. 1700 Ellenor Smoot late Ellenor Veale was in court regarding the charges (p. 92).

As shown later, records indicate William had a son John born after his will was written. Newman believed that from the will "it would seem to indicate that his three daughters had obtained majority and therefore could easily be of the first union. His sons, being minors at death, could possibly be of his second wife." My interpretation of the will in conjunction with other records is exactly the opposite. I believe that William and Thomas were children of his first marriage, and the 3 daughters were children by Eleanor Veale.

In his will, William stated that his wife Ellinor to have the care and tuition of two sons William and Thomas until age 21. I believe this statement was because they were children of his first wife. Had he not desired for Elenor to have the care of them, they not being her sons, it would not have been at all unusual for them to be placed under the care of someone else. As his daughters were children of Eleanor, he saw no need to make a statement regarding their care. Also, Eleanor in her will made no mention of her supposed son William or his children, while she did mention make bequests to the daughters and/or children by them, and call them grandchildren. From these facts, I can only conclude that William and Thomas are children by the first wife Anne, and the three daughters and John are children by Eleanor Veale.

Eleanor had apparently not remarried yet when on 26 Jan. 1708/9 "Elizabeth (sic) Smoot confessed judgement to Thomas Marson for 700 pounds of tobacco due by Wm. Smoot her deceased husband" (Westmoreland Co., VA Order Bk. 1705-1721, p. 107 abstrated by Dorman). This case was continued, and she had married William Trigg by 28 Aug. 1712 when judgement was given to Thomas Marson against William Trigg and Ellenor his wife. (1705-1721 Bk., p. 196a abstracted by Dorman).

William's son William was of age on 1 Oct. 1713 to testify in a suit Augustine Higgins brought agains John Veale (Eleanor's brother). (1705-1721 Order Bk., p. 267 abstracted by Dorman). Also testifying in the suit was William Trigg (Eleanor's husband).

On 26 Sep. 1717 Mary Smoot, orphan of Wm. Smoot chose John Veale as her guardian. (John Veale was Mary's uncle.) (1705-1721 Order Bk. p. 327a, abstracted by Dorman). That she chose her guardian, she was at least 14, placing her birth as 1696-1703.

29 Jan. 1717/8 a deed of gift by "Ellenor Smoot (now Trigg) to her son John Smoot" was proved. (1705-1721 Order Bk., p. 333a. abstracted by Dorman). Same date Ellenor Trigg, relict of William Trigg, made oath that he died without a will. She was granted letters of administration with John Veale as her security. (p. 334)

Eleanor third married John Austin. They moved to St. Mary's Co., MD where he wrote his will 25 Mar. 1732/3.
He named godson Austin Sanford Smoot.
Grandson-in-law William Harrison.
Daughter-in-law Elizabeth Trigg.
Wife Elliner.
If godson Austin Sanford Smoote dies without lawful issue his share to son-in-law John Smoote.

Two sons-in-law John Smoote and William Harrison.

On 11 Feb. 1737 Elenor Astin (sic) signed as next of kin to the inventory of William Veale in St. Mary's Co., MD (her brother).

Newman incorrectly stated that Eleanor died intestate. She wrote her will 17 Mar. 1738/9 in St. Mary Co., MD, proved 14 April 1746. Published abstracts of this will have small errors and omissions compared with the copy in MD Wills 24: 385 (FHL microfilm 12850).
She named son John Smoot to have 10 pounds.
John Smoot, son of her son John to have 5 pounds.
Child that Sarah Smoot now goes with an equal part with the rest of the grandchildren. Thomas Rigg, William Neall (sic) Rigg, Subella Rigg, Winifred Rigg an equal part with the rest of the grandchildren.
Subella Rigg the feather bed and bedstead which belonged to "my Mother."
William Harrison, son of William Harrison an equal part with the rest of the grandchildren.
To William Harrison, son of William Harrison an equal part with the rest of the grandchildren, a colt, a ewe and a lamb.
To Austin Sanford Smoot a horse, bridle and saddle.
To granddaughter Sarh Rice "my feather bed and furniture" a cow and calf, a mare, personal items, and a equal part with the rest of the grandchildren.
To granddaughter Elizabeth Doxey a cow and calf, personal items in the possession of her father Thomas Doxey, and an equal part with the rest of the grandchildren.
To grandson John Doxey the feather bed that was formerly Jemima Trigg and an equal part with the rest of the grandchildren.
To Sarah Rigg, Winifred Harrison, Susanna Doxey, Sarah Smoot, Sarah Rice and "my cousin Susanna Green" mourning gowns, hoods and gloves.
John Thomas 20 shillings to make her coffin.

Son John Smoot executor.
Wit: John Stevens, William x Bryan, Sarah x Doxsey

Though not stated, the last bequest of mourning gowns, etc., other than Sarah Green, appear to me to all be daughters or daughter-in-law of Eleanor.

Another document that aids in identification of the family is the will of William Veale written 4 Jan. 1737, proved 30 Jan. 1737 in St. Mary's Co., MD. (MD Cal. of Wills, 7: 237). William was Eleanor's brother. His land was to be divided equally between William, son of William Harrison (grandson and son-in-law of his sister Eleanor) and William, son of Morris Veale (his brother). If either died their share was to go to William Veale Rigg, son of James Rigg. (grandson and son-in-law of his sister Eleanor)

This gives:
William Smoot and wife Anne
1. William Smoot b. ca. 1692

2. Thomas Smoot b. ca. 1695
William Smoot and wife Eleanor Veale
1. Sarah Smoot b. ca. 1699 m. Mr. Rice

1. Sarah Rice

2. Winifred Smoot b. ca. 1701; m. William Harrison (he d. ca. 1749 St. Mary's Co., MD, signing as next of kin was Margritt King and William Harrison. Margaret was the widow of Eleanor's brother William Veale, having secondly married Richard King)

1. William Harrison d. ca. 1777 St. Mary's Co., MD

3. Mary Smoot b. ca. 1703; living in 1717; died with no children??

4. John Smoot b. 1707---his descendants covered by Newman, et. al.
By her second marriage to William Trigg, Eleanor had the following children. It appears that after moving to MD they may have gone by Rigg rather than Trigg.
1. James Rigg b. ca. 1710 m. Sarah
1. Thomas Rigg b. ca. 1732

2. William Veale Rigg b. ca. 1734

3. Subella Rigg b. ca. 1736

4. Winifred Rigg b. ca. 1738
2. Susanna Rigg b. ca. 1712 m. Thomas Doxey (he died ca. 1767 St. Mary's Co., MD; adm. Austin Doxey)
1. Eliza Doxey b. ca. 1738
3. Jemima Trigg b. ca. 1714; d. before 1739, probably before 1733 4. Elizabeth Rigg b. ca. 1716; (died between 1733 and 1739)????

Rick Saunders
Salt Lake City, UT






Contributor:
Rick Saunders
fzsaund@ix.netcom.com
Salt Lake City, UT
18 Mar 1999

[SMOOT-L] Smoot, William, the immigrant, descendants conjecture (Part 2)


Hi,

This is part two of my posting, the first dealing with William Smoot who died in 1707 in Westmoreland Co., VA in 1707. This part will deal with new information presented in: The Price, Blackemore, Hamblen, Skipworth and Allied Lines by Mayor Jay Berry Price (Knoxville, TN: Tenn. Valley Publishing, 1992)

First, I will give an abbreviated list of descendants of William Smoot the immigrant as given by Harry Wright Newman. The numbers added are mine, to aid later in this posting.

1. William Smoot b. ca 1596/7
2. Thomas Smoot b. ca. 1634; d. ca. 1668 Charles Co., MD; m. Jane Batten
4. William Smoot ca. 1656; d. 1707 Westmoreland Co., VA (see part one of this posting for more details on him and descendants, and the listing of his children as below)
6. William Smoot born to first wife
7. Thomas Smoot born to first wife
8. Sarah Smoot born to second wife
9. Winifred Smoot born to second wife
10. Mary Smoot born to second wife
11. John Smoot born to second wife
5. Thomas Smoot ca. 1660-1704/5; m. Elizabeth Barton

12. Barton Smoot and other children
14. Edward Smoot
3. William Smoot b. 16--, d. 1716 Richmond Co., VA
Next, there are two entries in the Maryland land books for William Smoot claiming land in 1646. One stated he transported 7 people, his wife Grace, and children Aels, Ann, Elizabeth, Richard and Thomas, and Elizabeth Wood, daughter of his wife Grace. The other was also in 1646 for William Smoot with wife and two children. Jourdon came to the same conclusion as I did, that this second one refers to a son of William, who was of age. Price also believed that this second entry could refer to the son of William, Sr. This would place the birth of the son William as ca. 1622, to have two children in 1646.

If William, Jr. was born this early, and had two children in 1646, one has to question Newman's placement of William, Jr. as the one that went to Virginia, and died in 1716. That would also mean he started a second family there in the 1690s, when he was 70 years old, continuing to have children until he was about 75. Possible, but not very common.

Next, consider this document presented by Price from Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, Maryland Ms 1341 that Price stated appeared to be a court record. "William Smoot the patentee of a Tract of Land lying in St. Mary's County called the Governor's Gift had three sons viz, William, Thomas & John. William the first son had children by two wives viz William & Thomas by the first wife John & two sisters by the second wife. Thomas the second son of the patentee had also issue Barton & others. John the third son of the patentee likewise had issue Edward & others."

Price goes on to quote from a memo attached to the record that was very difficult to read due to water smeared words. Mentions land called Smoots Hollow surveyed by William Smoot, mentions survey for William Smoot 27 June 1667 and a survey 27 June 1647. Price also listed finding a patent to Oliver Davis (Liber W.C.: 508) in 1677 called the "Governors Gift" in New Town Manor. Mentioned Patent of William Smoot of June 1647, for "three hundred acres one hundred and fifty acres." The "Governors Gift" was described as on the West side of Herring Creek, containing 150 acres.

If this document is to be believed (and I don't know why it shouldn't be) it would cause some major shakeups in the Smoot line as presented by Newman, and copied by everyone since then.

The only William I know who had two wives, with sons William and Thomas by the first, and John and two daughters by the second is 4. William Smoot listed above. See my posting number 1 for the evidence that William and Thomas were by the first wife, and John and the daughters were by the second. There was no date given on this "court case" as presented by Price. Could this have been about the time that 6. William Smoot of Westmoreland County in 1719 conveyed to 12. Barton Smoot of Charles Co., MD all claim to property in MD? If so, then 10. Mary could have been deceased by then, and account for the listing of 2 sisters. See posting 1 that she was probably deceased by 1733, and almost certainly by 1739 when her mother Eleanor wrote her will.

The only Thomas Smoot with a son Barton that I know of in this time era are 5. Thomas and 12. Barton. That 5. Thomas and 4. William are brothers is from a deed in 1683 where William sold land to his brother Thomas. Newman made the assumption that this was the same William Smoot that was named in the will of William Battin as being the son of Battin's sister Jone Smoot. He also assumed that this is the same William Smoot that received a patent in 1671 on "Smoots Chance" as the eldest son and heir of Thomas Smoot deceased.

I know of no direct link stating that 5. Thomas is a son of 2. Thomas, only that he is a brother of 4. William. Based on the court case presented by Price, and the other records mentioned above, it would appear there were two contemporary William Smoots, one the son of William, the other the son of Thomas. My interpretation of reconciling all these records (using the same numbers as above is):
1. William Smoot
3. William Smoot b. ca. 1622
4. William Smoot d. 1707 Westmoreland Co., VA
6. William Smoot born to first wife
7. Thomas Smoot born to first wife
8. Sarah Smoot born to second wife
9. Winifred Smoot born to second wife
10. Mary Smoot born to second wife
11. John Smoot born to second wife
5. Thomas Smoot d. 1704/5 Charles Co, MD; m. Elizabeth Barton
12. Barton Smoot and other children
13. John Smoot
14. Edward Smoot
2. Thomas Smoot b. ca. 1634; d. ca. 1668 Charles Co., MD; m. Jane Batten
15. William Smoot b. ca. 1656; d. 1716 Richmond Co., VA
I would appreciate comments/additions to this, regarding any pertinent records I may have overlooked, or other possible interpretations I may not have considered.

If there is anyone on the list who has access to the MD Hist. Soc., a book I found on the manuscript collection of theirs described Ms.1341 as about 600 items of misc. land papers. I think it would be very interesting if a separate reading was the same as Price's, or if another person could read the difficult parts better. If it is possible to copy this document, I would gladly pay for the cost of the copy.

Rick Saunders
Salt Lake City, UT






Contributor:
Michelle Ule
Robertule@aol.com
Ukiah, CA
18 Mar 1999

[SMOOT-L] Re: William Smoot of VA; including Dorothy Durham information


Rick--

I read your postings with great interest, since we have been beating our heads against William Smoot for quite some time. Below my name is part of a paper I've written about my early Durhams which attempts to figure out William Smoot's connection to Dorothy (Mrs. Thomas) Durham. You having William as #15, the son of Thomas Smoot, is an interesting idea; do you know the names of Thomas and Jane Batton Smoot's daughters, by any chance? (Are you paying attention Steve and Glenn--THOMAS Smoot?!)

Michelle Ule
Robertule@aol.com
Ukiah, CA

(From the Durham paper written by me in 1998)
Somehow a Thomas Durham got to Virginia, whether as a child or on his own, we don't know. He planted tobacco in Richmond County and owned land. At some point before 1686, he married a woman named Dorothy, whom many genealogists believed was the daughter of William Smoot. Contrary evidence, however, shows Dorothy Durham and her two sisters Alice Chinn Stretchley and Thomasin Marshall Goodridge were more likely the daughters of one Mary Gilbert, widow.

The primary historical connection between William Smoot Sr. and Dorothy Durham is the granting of land in 1700. On August 2, 1700, William Smoot Sr.:

for love and affection for Dorothy Durham, wife of Thomas Durham, and her children, deeded sixty-two acres of land entailing it upon their eldest son Thomas Durham Jr., their second son, John Durham and their eldest daughter, Mary Durham; he provides if all of these children the said land was to descend to the fourth, fifth and sixth child of the said Dorothy Durham and if all the aforementioned children of Dorothy Durham deceased, said land to descend to Ann Fox, wife of William Fox, Gentleman, of Lancaster County.

The property was given to Dorothy Durham and her three children "for love and affection". The land was "entailed" to the children: eldest son to second son to daughter. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, entail means "to settle on a number of persons in succession so that it [an estate] cannot be bequeathed at pleasure by any one possessor."

The Encyclopedia Britannica explained that in entailed property, the inheritance was "confined to the heirs of the body." By entailing the gift property to Dorothy Durham and her children, Smoot appeared to be ensuring the property stayed specifically within her family. Note the property was not assigned to Thomas Durham Sr., at all. This coupled with the notations about love and affection, seemed to indicate Dorothy was at least a relative, and many supposed she was his daughter.

Ann Fox, to whom the land would revert if no Durhams survived, was Dorothy Durham's niece, the married daughter of her sister Ann Chinn Stretchley. Ann Stretchley had other children who apparently were overlooked in this potential gift. It is not clear if Thomasin Marshall Goodridge had any children at the time of the deed.

In the Smoot gift, Jane Smoot is listed as waiving her dower rights [Internet comment from Steve Smoot]. The Oxford English Dictionary defines dower as "1. the portion of a deceased husband's estate which the law allows to his widow for life. 2. The money or property which the wife brings to the husband."

Customarily, when a woman waived her dower rights, she was agreeing not to expect the property to become hers when her husband died. But what if, in this case, Jane was waiving rights to property she brought into the marriage which her husband was then assigning to members of Jane's natal family? Perhaps Dorothy Durham and her sisters were children of Jane's sister? And perhaps Jane's sister was Mary Gilbert?

These questions are not answerable at present. We do know, however, that Dorothy Durham's son Thomas Durham Jr. married William Smoot's daughter Mary about 1710. Mary Smoot, however, would have been a seven year old child in 1700, so her future relationship with Dorothy Durham really isn't germane here.

In 1707, William Smoot deeded Thomas and Dorothy Durham another fifty acres (Deed Book 4, page 109, 111).

That same year, on April 26, Mary Gilbert deeded the Durhams 50 acres of land "adjoining William Smoot's" gift, according to Shirley Corbari in The Guio- Dodson Family. The property was described in the deed book as being
upon a branch of Farnham Creeke called and knowne by the name of the Buory Swamp, containing by estimation fifty acres, now in the tanure and occupation of William Wright.
The deed was signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of William Smoot and Mil. Walters.

Miles Walters witnessed Thomas Durham's will eight years later, so perhaps he was a neighbor. Mary Gilbert obviously was acquainted with William Smoot.

William Smoot Sr. died in 1716; his will named his wife Jane, son-in-law Thomas Durham and three grandchildren: Margaret, Joseph and Sarah Durham (the only three Durham children born at the time of Smoot's death). The fact his will made no mention of the sisters Dorothy, Alice and Thomasin (Dorothy and Thomasin were still alive) would indicate they probably were not his daughters. Jane Smoot died in North Farnham Parish on October 4, 1726.

Alice was born about 1665 and married John Chin (16??-1692)[Corbari] by whom she had three, possibly four children as named in her 1701 will: Ann Fox(1682-1729), Catherine Heal, Rawleigh and possibly Jno. Chin. Her second husband was John Stretchley, Gentleman (ca 1649-1698).

Alice's August 29, 1701 will is confusing in regard to relationships and lists them as follows:

daughters Ann Fox and Catherine Heal; sister Dorothy Durham; cousin Mary Dodson; son-in-law Capt. William Fox; Ann Fox's father, Jno. Chin; Ann Fox's father-in-law Jno. Stretchly; son Rawleigh Chin; sister Tomazin Marshall". [Lancaster Co. VA Inventories and Wills 1690-1709, vol 8, p. 105]

Dodson family historian Glenn Gohr pointed out seventeenth century people sometimes defined relationships differently than we do in the present. In this case, Mary Dodson was Alice's niece, not her cousin. This is interesting in light of the reference to "Ann Fox's father, Jno. Chin", a man who is believed to have died several years before and then been succeeded by John Stretchly. Stretchly is described as Ann's father-in-law in the will, but he actually was her step-father. Alice left something to Jno. Chin, so perhaps he was her son, not her ex-husband.

Thomasin Marshall Goodridge is believed to have been born about 1667. She is thought to have married Abraham Marshall, who owned land in Richmond County which eventually came into the possession of the Durhams. (And they sold it in 1723 to Thomas Dodson Sr.). It is not clear when Marshall died, but at some point after 1701 Thomasin married William Goodridge.

William Goodridge signed his will on May 12, 1713 and it contained the following provisions:

named Thomasin wife of William; to son William all land in Lanc. Co., which I bought of Richard Alderson and John (Buxton); other chil. Moses and Elizabeth; desires Mr. Rawleigh Chinn to have the care of the three chil. until age 21; ex: fr. Rawleigh Chinn; wits: none given, but prov. By the oaths of Dorothy and Thomas Durham (Sr.). [Wills of Richmond County, VA 1699-1800]

Rawleigh Chinn was Alice Chinn Stretchley's son and thus a cousin to Goodridge's children (Interestingly, the Rawleigh name appeared for generations afterwards in the Dodson family). The children, thus, probably were Thomasin's children as well. The Durhams provided an oath certifying the will; they were Goodridge's sister-in-law and brother-in-law. The familial relationship is further explained in a reference to "Aunt Dorothea" in Rawleigh's sister Ann Chinn Fox Chichester's 1725 will. (The IGI lists Dorothy Durham's death as 1716, but the 1725 reference suggests she must have lived at least that long).

This lengthy discussion of Dorothy Durham's sisters is to explain in part why she is not believed to be William Smoot's daughter. Neither Dorothy nor her still-living sister Thomasin were mentioned in Smoot's 1715 will, though Dorothy's Durham grandchildren (the children of Smoot's daughter Mary Smoot Durham) were included.

Mary Gilbert, described as a widow in an indenture she signed to Thomas and Dorothy Durham, is believed to be Dorothy Durham's mother instead. The aforementioned indenture, signed April 26, 1707, gave fifty acres of land to Thomas and Dorothy Durham and their heirs.

Mary Gilbert probably was married to James Gilbert, though we do not know if he was the father of her daughters. Virginia Colonial Abstracts, Richmond County, Records 1704-1724, compiled by Beverly Fleet, lists a series of depositions made about James Gilbert. Among those testifying were Dorothy Durham (age 41 years in 1704) and William Smoot.

The depositions appear to be about James Gilbert's will which someone was contesting. Gilbert is portrayed as an irreligious, hunting-loving man at odds with his wife and some of his neighbors. He had told witness Ann Kelly "he had not the sense to make a will" and she saw James Gilbert "count 15 head of Cattle for fourty". He apparently died of burns between New Year's Day and November of 1704.

According to her deposition, Ann Kelly was a servant to Thomas "Dierham" (Durham) and Mary Gilbert was staying with the Durham family on New Year's Day 1704. Durham sent Kelly to fetch Gilbert to the Durham home and along the way he stopped and complained that John Mills (a neighbor) was the cause for the problems James was having with his wife. According to the depositions, Mills had written a false will for Gilbert and after leaving 20 shillings for Mrs. Gilbert, assumed the rest of the estate for himself. The Gilberts had a servant of their own, Thomas V. Longdale, who was set free by the alleged will at Gilbert's death. The records do not record how the suit was finally settled.

Curiously, neither Mary nor James Gilbert were mentioned in Alice Chinn Stretchley's 1701 will, though they both were alive at the time.

We don't know when Mary Gilbert died, but Thomas Durham Sr. signed his will on August 4, 1711. He made two references to land conveyed by Mary Gilbert:

Item. I give and Bequeath unto my Dear and Loving wife Dorothy Durham the use of my Plantations, together with all my Lands and Tenements with all and Every of their Appurtenances--Profits and Commoditys ---- Belonging or appertaining for and During the ----of her natural Life and after her Decease if my Son Thomas Durham and Mary his wife do by some sufficient instrument in writing under their hands and seals and affording to due forme of Law Release and Acquitt all and singular their Right ,title and Interest in and unto Fifty acres of Land being the same Tract & Plantations which we had conveyed us by Mary Gilbert unto my son John Durham and his heirs or pay him the said: John Durham Eight Thousand Pounds of Tobacco in Lieu of His said Land and also pay unto my Daughter Mary Dodson Fifteen hundred pounds of Tobacco that then and upon this consideration-----aforesaid: I do give and bequeath unto my said son Thomas Durham and his heirs Lawfully Begotten and for want of such issue unto my son John Durham and his heirs Lawfully Begotten and for want of such issue unto my GrandSon Thomas Dodson and his heirs. But if my said son Thomas Durham doth refuse and will not release the said fifty acres of Land nor pay the Tobacco aforesaid: I do will and Bequeath the said Plantation whereon I now dwell with all my Lands unto my son John Durham and his heirs---

Item. I give and Bequeath unto my Son John Durham Fifty acres of Land more or less being the Plantation with all the Tract and Parcell of Land that was Conveyed us by Mary Gilbert, to have and to hold the said Tract and Parcell of Land with the appurtainances unto my said son John Durham and his heirs Lawfully begotten and for want of such issue unto my GrandSon Thomas Dodson and his heirs-

The will appears to be talking about the same fifty acres of land indentured to the Durhams by Mary Gilbert in 1707. It apparently was a nice plantation if Thomas and Dorothy Durham had moved into the house by the time of Thomas' death! Thomas Durham also seemed determined to ensure the property stayed within the family, assigning the plantation to second son John if oldest son Thomas Durham Jr. did not follow the instructions laid out by the dying man.

Thomas Durham Sr.'s assigning the property to oldest grandson Thomas Dodson Jr., also indicated the older man was trying to keep the property in the family. This would seem to imply Mary Gilbert probably was a family member.

All that being said, Mary Gilbert probably was Dorothy, Alice and Thomasin's mother. Whether their father's name was Gilbert, or perhaps a Thomas with another surname (to explain Thomasin's unusual name) , is simply unknown.






Contributor:
Rick Saunders
fzsaund@ix.netcom.com
Salt Lake City, UT
18 Mar 1999

[SMOOT-L] Re: Smoot, William


Hi Michelle,

No, I don't know of any daughters of Thomas Smoot and Jane Batten. Steve Smoot is the person who pointed me in the direction of the book by Price, when I asked him the source on his webpage of my William Smoot's (d. 1707) wife Eleanor being a Veale.

Since reading that, I have spent months gathering information on William's (d. 1707) descendants and the related Veale family, in trying to determine how all the people mentioned in Eleanor's will related. Once I believed I had that straight, I have gone round and round in my own mind trying to reconcile the document listing a William with the sons William, Thomas and John.
I briefly looked at your William, died 1716 Richmond Co., VA, and wondered if be could be the father, since in the 1690s there was listed a William Smoot, Jr. in records with him. He didn't seem to fit, though.
I kept coming back to the statement that William was the father of Thomas who was the father of Barton "and others." Yesterday everything clicked into place and I came up with the family as I listed it, and what to do with the "other William" son of Thomas Smoot and Jane Batten. As I said, if the family as I have listed it is correct, it will have a lot of far reaching effects.
That is why I posted what I did, so it could be seen how this would effect other relationships, and if it still all makes since. As one example, Newman said that Thomas Smoot and Jane Batten had a son James. I haven't even attempted to look at records regarding James and if this is still where he would fit in.
I'll follow this posting with some information regarding the Barton family as related to the Smoot family. In addition to my connection through William Smoot (d. 1707), I also descend from the immigrant William Smoot's daughter Anne who married first William Hungerford, and second William Barton. My grandparents were ninth cousins once removed to each other.

Rick Saunders
Salt Lake City, UT






Contributor:
Rick Saunders
fzsaund@ix.netcom.com
Salt Lake City, UT
19 Mar 1999

[SMOOT-L] SMOOT-- book reprint and Dorothy Durham


Hi,

I know at least one reprint of Newman's book has been done, but I don't know the date or who did it. The reprint I saw was one of those spiral bound types. It was privately owned by James Jeffreys (sp?), who is one of the librarians in the Western History and Genealogical Department of the Denver Public Library. A call or letter to him there could probably learn who/where it was republished, and from there find if copies are still available.



For the Dorothy married to Thomas Durham problem I haven't really studied it much. Just from a quick reading of the material and messages, I can see it would be a several hour venture to begin to get a feeling for all the names.

I do have a couple comments and questions. Most transactions I have seen of the type involving William Smoot and Dorothy and her children, are either father to daughter and grandchildren, or brother to sister, and nieces and nephews.

If you accept Newman's identity of William, then if Dorothy was his sister, that would make her a daughter of William and Grace as Glenn suggested on his site. The questions I have on this are: could Grace have had a daughter born as late as about 1660, the age given for her? The problem is we don't really know when William and Grace married, how old she may have been, and if she could have had a child born as late as 1660. Do we know who/when her daughter Elizabeth Wood married, giving us an idea of Elizabeth's age, and thus an idea of Grace's age? If Dorothy was a daughter of William and Grace, one thing I note is the lack of use of the name Dorothy among the children of what would be her brothers and sisters.

If you go with the makeup as I suggested yesterday, and that William of Richmond Co., VA is the son of Thomas Smoot and Jane Batten. Then if Dorothy was a sister to William, she would be a daughter of Thomas Smoot and Jane Batten. In this case we definitely know that they could have had a daughter born in 1660.

Rick Saunders
Salt Lake City, UT






Contributor:
Glenn Gohr
ggohr01@mail.orion.org
19 Mar 1999

[SMOOT-L] Re: William Smoot of VA; including Dorothy Durham information


Michelle,

Thanks so much for calling my attention to the Dorothy (SMOOT?) Durham controversy again. It appears we all need to study & try to make sure we have accurate birth dates for the early Smoots (even approximate dates) in case Harry Wright Newman or others have placed Smoots in the wrong family grouping.

Thanks Rick Saunders for all your input on the early Smoots. Maybe this will help us to get a few more items hammered out and arrive at the truth on the early Smoots. Thanks also to Steve Smoot for his assistance now and in the past.

Michelle, thanks for posting your Durham/Smoot article that you wrote last year. It gave some convincing arguments that one Williams Smoot, Sr. was the father of Dorothy (Smoot?) Durham and her two sisters, Alice Chinn Stretchley and Thomasin Marshall Goodridge. I still feel because of Dorothy's age, that her father would need to be William Smoot (Smute) the immigrant who had a wife Grace (possibly his 2nd wife & not the mother of Dorothy, Alice & Thomasin).

Now, Michelle, you also give convincing arguments that these 3 sisters could be daughters of a Mary Gilbert also (and I believe I was the one who steered you in this direction). After rereading all this one more time, I am coming up with new conclusions--unless you or others can find some holes in my arguments.

On my web page at:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5821/smoot.html

I list Dorothy (Smoot?) Durham as a daughter of William Smoot, Sr. & wife Grace as a possible connection. I also direct researchers to my Dodson Puzzle 1 & Dodson Puzzle 2 pages:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5821/dodsonpuzzle.html
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5821/dodsonpuzzle2.html

where I've included information on this Durham/Smoot/Dodson puzzle which has baffled me and others for years. There are copies of actual wills & deeds. Also a letter I wrote years ago about this problem. You may wish to reread what Michelle posted to the Smoot List along with what is on my Smoot & Dodson & Durham web pages.

Anyway, my latest conclusions are this:

Why couldn't Mary Gilbert be the mother of Thomas Durham, instead of Dorothy??!!!!

In the past researchers have listed Thomas Durham's parents as Henry Durham of Bermuda who married on 14 Feb. 1660 in Bermuda to Judith Hunt. However, currently we DO NOT KNOW the parents of Thomas Durham.

He was reported to have been born ca. 1661 (because of the above marriage date of Henry & Judith) in Bermuda, married ca. 1680 in Richmond Co., VA to Dorothy (Smoot? or Gilbert?) & died 1714 Richmond Co., VA.

We do not know where Thomas Durham was born or his year of birth. Possibly he was born earlier that 1660. The only date of birth I have for Dorothy currently is ca. 1660 (based on Thomas Durham's supposed birth date). Does anyone else have a better year of birth for Dorothy? or for her known sisters Alice & Thomasin?

GENE B ROOKS posted several messages to the Dodson List on Rootsweb beginning on March 5, 1998 which stated that Thomas Durham who married Dorothy was definitely NOT the son of Henry Durham and Judith Hunt. He wrote to the Bermuda archives. They sent him a copy of a case in the Court of Assize in 1734 involving an Action of Trespass, which involved one Richard Durham of Sandys as heir to estate of Thomas DURHAM, of the same parish. Thomas was the son of Henry DURHAM who died in 1692. The cover letter also said "This seems to suggest that Thomas was living in Bermuda and not America, though I can trace no direct proof. I can not locate a copy of Henry Durham's will, which I believe would indicate where. his son was located."

Gene Rooks included a brief abstract of the court case.

To look up the full text of Gene Rooks' messages on this,

1) Go to the search engine for all Rootsweb Surname mailing lists:

http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

2) Type in the name of the list: DODSON

3) Hit submit button

4) On the next screen under Query, type "Henry Durham" in quotation marks

5) Select database as 1998

6) Hit the search button

You should receive 8 matches on this subject including the March 5, 1998 posting of Gene Rooks.

Since we do not know the parents of Thomas Durham, why couldn't his mother be the Mary Gilbert mentioned in the deeds. If you reread the deeds, it sounds as if Thomas Durham is the one receiving and passing along the property to his family, instead of it coming in right of his wife, Dorothy.

If Mary Gilbert is the mother of Thomas Durham (I assume she was married previously to a man named DURHAM), then that leaves it open for Dorothy and her sisters to be daughters of a William Smoot, Sr. (Was there more than one William Smoot of the right age to be the father of Dorothy, Alice & Thomasin? or is William the immigrant the only one old enough to be their parents??? Did William the immigrant ever end up in VA or is he confined only to MD?)

What do you think, Michelle?

Glenn Gohr
ggohr01@mail.orion.org

P.S. If this all pans out, I will need to do some major revamping on my web pages.






Contributor:
Glenn Gohr
ggohr01@mail.orion.org
29 Mar 1999

This information was on the Dodson List, but it may be the answer that some of us are looking for as to the parentage of Dorothy (Smoot?) who married Thomas Durham, and her sisters Alice CHINN STRETCHLY, and Thomazine MARSHALL.

This reference reports that her maiden name was MORRIS instead of Smoot. We will need to review the original records.

Thanks to Vicki Annico and Gene Rooks for calling this to my attention.

Glenn Gohr
ggohr01@mail.orion.org

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From: GENE B ROOKS
To: DODSON-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [DODSON-L] Thomas DURHAM, b. ca. 1660 md. Dorothy Morris
Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 6:34 PM

Gene,
I've looked at some of my records and found that the full reference to this material is:

Marriages of Richmond Co. 1668-1853 by Geo H. S. King Fellow ASG VA Archives F, 232, R5, K5, cop 5

Vicki
To: Vicki Annico

Vicki, thanks for clarifying that. That will be a very important discovery for many of the DODSON researchers, and answer a long standing mystery as to the maiden name of the sisters Dorothy DURHAM, Alice CHINN STRETCHLY, and Thomazine MARSHALL.

NAME: Vicki Annico
EMAIL: vicki@primeline.com
SURNAMES: Durham
DATE: Mar 27 1999
QRYTEXT:
Many years ago in my research, I came across a reference to the marriage of Thomas Dodson, b. ca 1660 and Dorothy Morris, b. ca 1663, daughter of Captain Thomas Morris. I believe this information came from "Marriages of Richmond Co., VA 1668-1853" by George H. S. King, Fellow. Has anyone heard of this before?. (Note, Vicki confirmed she meant Thomas DURHAM married Dorothy MORRIS)






Contributor:
Rick Saunders
fzsaund@ix.netcom.com
Salt Lake City, UT
29 Mar 1999

[SMOOT-L] Smoot-Durham
Hi,

Glenn posted earlier a statement by way of Vicki Annico from the Dodson list that "Marriages of Richmond Co. 1668-1853" by Geo H. S. King stated that Thomas Durham married Dorothy Morris, daughter of Captain Thomas Morris.

"Marriage of Richmond County, Virginia 1668-1853" compiled by George H. S. King (Easley, SC: Southern Historical Press, Inc, 1964) p. 61 states "Thomas Durham married 168? Dorothy___________ (born circa 1663), probably a relative of William Smoot, Sr . . . "

p. 81 states Jeremiah Greenham and Dorothy Durham (widow), license February 1714/15 (Dorothey Durham was the widow of Thomas Durham . . . "

p. 250 asks "Who were the parents of these three sisters?" and has a diagram of Dorothy Alice, and Thomasin and their families.

There are Morris' in the index, but not Thomas Morris. Wherever Vicki Annico got the information, it was not from that book, unless it is on a page missed by the index.






Contributor:
Michelle Ule
Robertule@aol.com
Ukiah, CA
30 Mar 1999

[ SMOOT-L] The Unending Puzzle of Wm Smoot and the Mysterious Dorothy


This is from VIRGINIA COLONIAL ABSTRACTS, edited by Dorothy Fleet, Richmond County Records, 1704-1724 (probably volume I of three), page 291:

(p.37) "Power of Atty. 11 June 1705. John Ingo of Farnam par. Rd. Co. to 'my trusty and well beloved friend and brother James Ingo of the abovesaid County' to transact business. On lines 10 and 11 the following appears 'or any other Business that is belonging to me the said John Ingo Green and by these presents x'. the name 'Green' introduced here may possibly be an error in the original. Signed John Ingo. Wit: WM SMOOT, DORRATHY X DURRAN

There is a lengthy series of depositions in Richmond County, Miscellaneous Records, Book 1 p. 285 -287 (this was volume I) of Fleet's abstracts. [Thank you to Gene Rook who called them to my attention quite some time ago]. The depositions concern themselves with one JAMES GILBERT, whom we believe probably was the husband of MARY GILBERT. The Gilberts lived either with the Durhams or in close proximity to the Durhams, as well as the Ingos and--probably--William Smoot (whose wife is never mentioned, by the way).

[Those who were with us last week, will remember some of us believe Mary Gilbert may have been the mother of the feminine trio Dorothy, Thomazine and Alice, albeit with a different father (Captain John Morris?--but Gene found on the Internet his wife's name was Sarah . . . ) Glenn Gohr, on the other hand, is now positing Mary Gilbert could have been Thomas Durham's mother. You can see why I have so many convoluted diagrams scrawled all over my house!]

Anyway, the depositions are interesting because, once again, they include depositions by Dorothy Durham and William Smoot, and references to the two in"company" together with others. John Ingo also appears in these depositions. I'm going to type them all out after my name--they are lengthy with challenging spelling--and perhaps someone here can reach some conclusions I have not thought of!

Glenn, Gene and I are only Smoots if Dorothy is,

Michelle Ule

RICHMOND COUNTY MISCELLANEOUS RECORDS, BOOK I


p.26. "Thoms Longdale aged 24 yeares or thereabouts being Examined saith that a jeare and a halfe before James Gilberts death John Mills came over to James Gilberts, where your depo't then Lived and when the said John Mills went away, the said John Mills told your depo't that James woudl make his will, meaneing your depo'ts master to the best of his knowledge and sometime after that John Mills Junr came to your Depo'ts masters house and your Depo'ts master, James Gilbert went along with the said John Mills Jun'r and when the said James Gilbert came back againe your Dep't: asked him whether he had finished his Business and the said James Gilbert answered, yes, and some time after that your depo't asked John Mills Junr who your Depots master had left his Estate to, and the said John Mills Jun'r answered that he had left it all to him onely twenty shillings and that he left to his wife, and sometime after that your depo't: mett with Tho: White and he said your depo't that his master had Sett him Free when he dyed". Tho V Longday his mark. Jrat in Cur 2'd die 9'br 1704. Recordat Test James Sherlock Cl Cur.

p.26A "Anne Kelly aged 20 years or thereabouts saith that on new yeares Day Last, Thomas Dierham [Thomas Durham--mu] your depo'ts master sent her to James Gilbert to desire him to Come Down to pipe it and your depo't and the said James Gilbert were coming back, by John Mills his plantation, James Gilbert asked your depo't whether his old woman was att your depo'ts masters house, and your depo't answered, yes she was, and the said James Gilbert help up his two hands and said, God's Curse Light upon that Family nameing John Mills, and all his Familly and said that if it was not for John Mills and his wife, he and his wife would never have lived att Variance as they did, and your depo't told him the said James Gilbert that it was his Fault living so and asked him why he had not saught away his ----- and Confound that will which he made, and the said James Gilbert said that John Mills and his Family had Robbed his Chest so that they would not agree upon any meanes that he should Fetch it away, and that they were ashamed of It, and the said James Gilbert said that there was a will made by Swore by God, that he3 knew not what was in it no more than I did, and your Depo't asked the said James Gilbert whether he was sent for to signe his will, but the said James Gilbert answered searing by his God, that he did not signe it, and told your depo't that he had not the sens, to make a will, and that John Mills was a Rogue for makeing a false Will, and that that made him and his wife live so discontentedly and further your depo't saith that she see the said James Gilbert in Feb'ry Last to the best of your Depo'ts knowledge, Count 15 head of Cattle for fourty". Anne X Kelly her mark. Jurat in Cur 2'd die 9'br 1704 Recordat Test James Sherlock Cl Cur.

p.27. "Lawrence Callahan aged 21 yeares or thereabouts being Examined saith, that your depo't being att John Simons his house on a Sabbath Day sometime the last Summer he heard John Mills and Tho's Landale Talking together, and Thomas Langdale told John Mills that he did not know tha the was to be sett Free by his masters will till he had mett Tho White coming From Moratico Mill, and the said John Mills said that It was his mistake not to putt it in but that he should be Free nevertheless And further your depo't saidth not:. Lawrence X Callahan, his mark. Sworne to in Cur 2'd Nov'r 1704

p.27 "Dorothy Durham aged 41 yeares or thereabouts saith that sometime before James Gilberts death being in Company of the said James Gilbert and William Smoote amongst others Discourse she heard the said James Gilbert say, to the said William Smoote, that he did not now that there was any Resurrectio nor not and that he had made a will to John Mills but that It signified nothing and that your depon't did severall times heare the said James Gilbert say that John Mills was a rogue, and that he nor any of his should ever by theh better for owhat he had And futher your depo't saith not". Dorothy X Durham, her mark. Jurat in Cur 2'd 9'br 1704 Recordat Test James Sherlock Cl Cur.

p.27-A. "John Ingo aged twenty nine yeares doth give upon oath tha tJames Gilbert a small time before his death was att his house and did declrae to him that he did Intend to Fetch away his Chest from John Mills house for he said it lay in such nasty condition with hen dung and such like nastiness that he could not well come at his Chest for it and that he was afraid that the Chest of Goods, both would be damnifyed with nastiness and that he did Inted to Fetch the Chest home to his owne house and did sweare bitterly that John Mills nor none of his Family should ever by the better for any thing of his Estate and that the will tht he made did signifye nothing and the said John Ingo further saith that a little before James Gilbert was burnt he asked him whether he was not persuaded to make a will or made Drunk when he did make it, and the said Jame sGilbert answered that he was not, but was as sober as he was att that time, and then the said James Gilbert was sober to the best of your deop'ts knowledge". John Ingo Jurat in Cur 2'd 9'br 1704

p.28 "Martha Ingo being sworne and Examined saith that some small time before James Gilberts Death the aforesaid James Gilbert being att your Depot's house she did aske the said James Gilbert why he did not alter his will, and the same James Gilbert confessed that he would and att the same time your dep't did heare the said James Gilbert seare, (by God or Gods Blood) that John Mills nor any of his family should ever by the better for any thing that he had, for he was a Very Rascall or a Rogue which of them your depo't cannot well say, and further the said Martha Ingo saith that a small time before the said James Gilbert was Burnt, she heard her husband John Ingo aske the said James Gilbert whether he was not perswaded to make a will or made Drunk when he did make it and that the James Gilbert answer'd him and said tha the was Drunk but that he was sober". Marta O Ingo her mark. Jurat in Cur 2'd Nov'4 1704 Recordat Test James Sherlock Cl Cur.

p.28 "will:Smoot saith that to the best of his Judgement that James Gilbert was not in his perfect sences by Reason of fitts which had followed him for severall yeares, and I having some discourse with him about a will which he had made to John Mills For to had him altered it and he said he had made a will to John Mills but it signified not for it was good for nothing and I advising him to prepare for his End and to make his peace with God and to be reconciled with his wife and he giving very foolish and cross answers, I told him that if he had a mind to have the Sacram't given to him that no minister would give it to him if he did not change his mind and likewise I asked him if he thought there was a Resurrection or not and he said he did no tknow, and that he did not goe to Church nor would not yeild to have any reading to him in his sickness nor att other times did not care for it as ever I could understand but it was his delight to be in the woods with his Gunn on the Sabbath Day" Will Smoot. Jurat in Cur 2'd 9br 1704 Recordat Test James Sherlock Cl Cur.

p.28-A "John Rankin aged thirty Eight yeares or thereabouts being examined and sworne saith that about thre eyears ago or thereabouts saith that your depon't being in the woods with Mr.George DAvenport neare unto your depot's plantation, John Mills Sen'r mett there with your depo't and said to your depo't that James Gilert late dec'ed was goeing to live up in Stafford, and the said Mills did request your depo't to persuade the aforesaid Gilbert not to go. Imediately while the said Mills was in your depo'ts Company the said Gilbert came into the aforesaid Company and your depo't did by his advice att that time perswade the said Gilbert not to go nor did the said Gilbert ever go and further your depo't did some short time after meet with the said Mills and the said Mills said that the aforesaid Gilbert did Inted to gett your depo't to write the said Gilberts Will, but your depo't never did, some considerable time after your depo't mett with the said Gilbert and after som ediscourse the said Gilbert said to your depon't that that will that he had made to your Mills signifyed nothing and some time before the said Gilberts death about ten days your depon't went to see the said Gilbert att his house and amongst some other Discourse the said Gilbert told your Depo't tha tthe aoresaid Will signefyed nothing and futher your Depo't sayeth not". John Rankin. Jurat in Cru 2'd 9'br 1704 Recordat Test James Sherlock Cl Cur.

We never heard the outcome of this series of depositions, but obviously someone (Mrs. Gilbert?) was contesting the will.

William Smoot Sr. gave the land "for love and affection for Dorothy Durham , wife of Thomas Durham and her children" on August 2, 1700.

He deeded Thomas and Dorothy Durham another 50 acres in 1707.

That same year Mary Gilbert deeded the Durhams 50 acres of land "adjoining William Smoot's" gift--according to Shirley Corbari in The Guio-Dodson Family. William Smoot witnessed that deed, along with Miles Walters. Thomas Durham's 1711 will made reference, twice, to that 50 acre parcel, trying to ensure the property stayed within the family (by inheritance, it went to eldest son Thomas Durham, thence to second son John Durham and if all else failed, to eldest grandson Thomas Dodson, son of daughter Mary). Reading it through again, I can see why Glenn might think Mary Gilbert could be Thomas Durham's mother. In that case, naming his only daughter Mary, makes sense.

But who was William Smoot? An overly kind neighbor?

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