Bio: Vincent Family History



Surnames: Vincent Shepard Krackenberger Car


----Source: Letter written by Beulah Nichols Nov 7, 1980



-Copyright 2015-

Route 2

Juneau, Wis. 53039

Nov. 7, 1980

Dear Arlene:

I thought you might be interested in hearing what happened when you gave me the name Vincent Vincent, but had no other information. I sent this name to my cousin Dorothy Shepard Krackenberger in Yuma (I figure she must be some sort of relation to you as our Grandmother Shepard was your grandfather's sister); Her daughter Janice is a teacher and went to England on a teacher's' exchange program last summer, and spent time climbing our family tree. 'All she had to go by otherwise was a letter from Richard Vincent to our aunt Josie Vincent from Glastonbury, dated Oct. 13, 1887. This letter fell into the hands of my youngest cousin Maxine Shepard Sutherlin who lives in California.

Dorothy sent me a report written by. Janice, which reads in part: During my trip to England, I found out quite a few things about our family. I started with Uncle Richard Vincent's letter. He gives the dates when his father and mother died, but he doesn't give their names. The crest on the letter said Glastonbury. I looked it up on a map and it is a real town in Southwest England in the county of Somerset.

I began in the Public Records office in London. The records - are listed in quarters from 1837. They do not list the exact date of death. I chose two, from what I hoped was the right district and requested the certificates I was right about grandfather, but I had to try again for grandmother. Because registering births, deaths, and marriages only started in 1837, I couldn't use them any further, except to find out that our American ancestor, Vincent Vincent was not married in England. His marriage of Sept. 16, 1854 is not listed in the books. (Note from Beulah: Grandma always told us that he was married on the ship on the way to America.) I went to Glastonbury, and all the places Richard mentions in his letter are there. It is a lovely little town of about 7,000. It's main industry is tourism, but there is a small sheepskin factory in town. Richard mentions in his letter that he was a leather dresser and glover, so the craft is quite old in the area.

Richard mentions that he was living in an almshouse, so I thought that the easiest way to trace the family would be to find the Almshouse records and see what they had to say about Richard Vincent. Nobody knew anything about the Almshouse Records. Then I tried the cemetery. Na luck there, you could wander around for days, and the caretaker had never heard of Vincents. I finally tried the largest church, St. John the Baptist, an Anglican church they told me that all the parish registers are in Taunton, the county seat, which was 23 miles away by bus. I went on a Monday. After I got there, found a place to stay, found the record office, found out what to ask for and how to ask for it, I found them. The records of our whole family are there, I am convinced of it. Please consider this a progress report for I am not through.

Our American ancestor Vincent Vincent, (who came to the United States) gave me the most headaches. The family records Mama gave me show that he was born Sept. 18, 1820, married Sept. 16, 1854 to Marla or Mary Ann. But he was not baptized in `St. John the Baptist church like his brothers and sisters, and so far I have not found out where he was baptized. He was living at #34 Benedict Street with his mother in 1851.  He was 30, she was 78. He was the last child at home. He was a carpenter. Vincent was the youngest child of John and Betty Car Vincent. They were married Oct. 21, 1795 in St. John's church.

Following is a list of their children:

John Aug. 17, 1800

Richard and Thomas (twins) Jan. 1, 1803

Mary May 15, 1808

Grace Apr. 2, 1809

Alfred 1811

Ann Oct. 31, 1813

Elizabeth Aug. 6, 1815

Matilda 1816

Vincent Sept. 18, 1820

In 1815 they stopped baptizing children in St. John's Church. I do not know what church they joined.

Some asides: Richard born Jan.. 1, 1803. His twin, Thomas must have died very early, because Richard doesn't mention him. Richard married Elizabeth on Feb. 22, 1932. They had at least one child, Christine who was born in 1837 and was 14 in 1851, but I think she died before reaching adulthood, because he doesn't mention her or grandchildren in the letter Richard died in 1891.

Mary Vincent Goodson lost her husband shortly before 1851. She was supporting John 16, Lucy 15, William 7, Mary 4, and James 1 in Baltonborough in 1851 as a dressmaker. The earlier part of the family is on the pedigree chart (Note: Which she sent me), which I think is the easiest way to understand it."

This is the information she has on the pedigree chart:

Vincent Vincent was a carpenter, born Sept. 18, 1820 in Glastonbury, England. He married Maria on Sept. 16, 1854, and died in Waukesha in 1897. Their children were John, Frank, Elizabeth, Josephine and Mary Lucinda. Marla was born Nov. 8, 1824 and died in 1878 in Waukesha.

John Vincent, a tailor, was born June 22, 1770 in Glastonbury and was married to Betty Fry on Oct. 21, 1795 in Glastonbury. Their children were John, born Aug 17, 180-0,- f chard and Thomas, twins, born Jan. 1, 1803. Mary born May /5, 1808, Grace born Apr. 2, 1809, Alfred born 1811, Ann born Oct. 31, 1813, Elizabeth born Aug. # 6, 1815, Matilda born 1816, and Vincent born 1820. Betty Fry, John's wife, was born May 28, 1772 in Glastonbury, and died there on Feb. 11, 1865.

John Vincent, a tailor, was born Sept. 22, 1740 in Glastonbury, and married Ann Down, who was born May 31, 1732 in Glastonbury.

Thomas Fry (apparently father of Betty Fry, I guess) was born Oct. 13, 1734 in Glastonbury and married Ann.

Richard Vincent (apparently not the one who wrote the letter) had the following children: Elizabeth, Dec. 13, 1739; John, Sept. 23, 1740; James, Apr. 20, 1745; Richard, May-6, 1747; Rebecca, Aug. 9, 1749; Joseph, Aug. 12, 1752 . From the chart it seems his wife was Rebecca.

Edmund Down, an apothecary, married Ann

John Fry, apparently the father of Thomas Fry, was born May 17, 1709 in Glastonbury and was married to Rebecca Court n Sept. 30, 1729. She was born Aug. 2, 1710. Their children were James and Rebecca (twins), born Apr. 23, 1714, Thomas (no date, and Isaac (no date).

You'd have to see the chart to see how this pedigree hooks together. Hope you enjoy this information as much as I did.

Your cousin,




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